The following excerpt from The Phish Companion is shared not only to encourage you to explore the book, but in light of concerns on the forum about jaded vets. We’re of course thrilled that so many people continue to discover (and rediscover) Phish, and welcome you to a site where connoisseurship sometimes puts praise in the context of historical variance. Previously posted in the earlier (Tumblr) version of this blog, it's now posted here...
There has been such extensive discussion about Phish’s high points that there are common suggestions for best performances (esp.12/31/95), strangest setlists (esp. 2/20/93), and most cosmic experiences (esp. 1/1/00). Much less attention is paid to the “bad moments” in Phishtory. You can find critique (and anything else) in excess in some places on the Internet, but it’s taboo in some circles. Many fans wear rose-colored blinders, or even nay-say about the possibility of mishaps, following the neo-hippie mantra that “it’s all good”. But it isn’t, even with Phish, and discussing that is a necessary responsibility in comprehensively covering their history and music.
To begin with something benign but often misrepresented, consider audience turnout, which neither skyrocketed nor consistently increased throughout Phish’s history. The famous “first show” is said to have had only one fan (Amy Skelton, although in a 11/03 interview in the Boston Globe Trey mentions three fans). But a show five years later is said to have had only two fans – 8/27/88, at the Food Court of Penn State’s Mont Alto Campus. And even five years beyond that, one show was moved from a larger venue to the smaller Tennessee Theater and then another (billed as “Party on the Plaza”) was performed not in the venue proper but its concession area. Even ten years into their career, they sometimes overestimated potential crowds: The show scheduled for July 19, 1993, at Baltimore’s Pier Six Pavilion was cancelled due to lack of ticket sales, major portions of tours in 1996 were played to half-full arenas, and the showing of a mere five thousand fans at 11/2/98 helped prompt the “you snooze you lose” monster performance of Dark Side of the Moon. And Europe was on occasion a total miss, as when the band were booed in Italy in 1996.
Sometimes, it was the band members who didn’t show: Trey was responsible for the “Guitar Player Taking a Leak” jam at Laguna Seca Daze in ’94, although the band covered with a funny little ditty in classic Phish humor followed by a smoking two-song second encore. Contrarily, Fishman (as told in the “bear story” 3/17/91) missed two of three sets on 7/30/88, leaving the band to tool around on standards with Trey on drums. (By the way, they’ve lost more than just themselves: Fishman lost his clothes 4/21/89, and Trey lost a contact lens at Farm Aid while jamming with Neil Young.) But these, too, were all relatively benign, even lending to some fantastically unique moments. Calling any of these “bad moments” may not be fair.
Sometimes, however, the band showed but the venue faltered, and these moments were bad. The 11/5/91 show was cancelled when the roof caved in, and a small flood ended 3/28/92 in the middle of a second set (acknowledged at and compensated on 2/19/93). A fire alarm interrupted the first set of 4/20/89, prevented a second set on 4/22/90, and brought the only “Horse” without a “Silent” on 6/21/94. The lights went out mid-“Melt” at10/20/89 and during “Chalk Dust” at 5/17/91, but the house lights went up 12/31/90 while the band huddled behind the stage selecting an encore. The PA went out during the 12/28/95 “Rift” (with lyrics “silence contagious in moments like these”) and the12/30/96 “Funky Bitch” (which the band “played” through, to the crowd’s delight). The PA also caused problems throughout 7/10/98, even in the roaring (and therefore appropriate) “Down with Disease”, although it mercifully cut short possibly the worst ever “Divided Sky”.
Weather, too, has been a trouble: Rain interrupted the first set of7/14/00 for 26 minutes, cut short the second set of 7/1/99, and moved the 6/8/95 show indoors. And while transportation has improved – from one van (which broke down on the way to 2/10/90) for the whole crew and equipment, to a set of buses and (for some festivals) jet rentals – international borders have been an issue on several occasions (including some equipment arrival to the Great Went), though not with any known impact on the shows.
Instrument problems have thankfully been few and far between. Mike broke a bass string on 4/22/90 and 5/2/91, and had some problems that interrupted the 11/28/92 “My Sweet One”. Trey broke a guitar string 11/29/96 (as did guest Del McCoury 7/18/99) – and his foot during the4/10/94 soundcheck (see show notes for 4/14/94, 4/20/94, 4/21/94, and4/23/94). He also apologized for being out of tune 4/6/85, aborted “Guelah” 12/6/91 due to guitar troubles, and got frustrated enough with his rig that he began kicking it during the 11/8/96 “Simple” (which was followed by “Loving Cup”, with the lyrics “I know I play a bad guitar”). At 11/22/92, Trey said Fish was mad at him because he “fucked up the ending” to “Axilla” – though exactly three years later, Trey accused Fish of screwing up “Rift” so badly they had to abort the song.
Trey has flailed on lyrics more often than notes, such as the last verse to “Fee” on 7/5/98, the first line of “Esther” 7/19/91, key lines of “Wilson” at both 7/19/03 and 8/3/03 (the latter somewhat corrected during the ensuing “Mike’s Song”), and lines from “Cavern” more times than we could count (but of which 5/23/00 is perhaps the most comical, and12/2/03 the most recent). Sometimes he drops only a few words, as in the 12/2/03 “Cities”, or even adds a few, such as an extra “whoa” in “Runaway Jim” (e.g. 8/13/97). But he forgot enough of the lyrics to “Sleeping Monkey” 5/2/93 that he apologized to Tom Marshall (who was in the audience). And he forgot enough of “Lizards” on 2/7/91 that he called the song off during the second verse, and enough on 7/3/95 that Fishman recommended a teleprompter.
But Fishman himself is sometimes out of step, such as starting “2001” when the rest are playing “Melt”, as on 7/15/99 and 7/26/99. And he forgot the lyrics to “Love Me” on 12/30/03, so ad-libbed about his vacuum cleaner. Even Mike, who doesn’t sing much, has occasionally missed a line, as on 11/28/92 when he was distracted and sang, “The tires are the thing on your hood when you get back to your house”.
Technical glitches and slippages aren’t the only ways in which some parts of Phish history have been arguably “bad”. Trey, who left the stage quickly after the first Great Went set, is heard in Bittersweet Motel saying simply, “We played a bad set.” He may be right (as quoted later in that documentary) not to care about missing “the changes”, saying that “it’s all about the energy”. But sometimes the slippage is in the energy itself. While some have argued that a “Friday” encore could ruin any show, even popular heavy-hitters aren’t completely reliable: Limestone hosted perhaps the best version of “Chalk Dust Torture” (at IT) but also perhaps the worst (at the Great Went). And Mike (recovering from the prior night) performed weakly enough 7/12/03 for Trey to “welcome [him] back” halfway into the second set.
Shows often start strong even if they don’t end well, but the weakest opener may have been 9/27/95 or 10/16/96. Among those shows that ended with a whimper, the 1/4/03 encore is commonly mentioned. Sometimes the band has petered out mid-song, such as the aborted “Lizards” 2/7/91; “Rift” 11/22/95; “Slave”, “Bowie”, and “Free” at 7/12/96; “My Friend” 2/25/97; “Guelah” 6/25/97; “Mike’s Song” and “Divided Sky”7/10/98, “Harry Hood”12/31/99, and “YEM” 1/3/03. (The 7/6/98 “Maze” was stopped on a dime – but only for Trey to apologize for not thanking the audience the previous night, which featured flubs throughout, notably in “Fee”.)
Finally, despite Phish’s variation of setlists, improvisational adventures, and expanding bag of antics, sometimes routine sets in and detracts from the wonder. “Golgi” is a great song, and “Rocky Top” a fine cover, but there was a time when they were all-too-common encores. Arguably worse (though also arguably a gimick), “2001” opened ten consecutive second sets in summer 1993, and ten more shows on that 33-show tour!
Though doing so would be unrepresentative, we could also review occasional problems with traffic, bathroom facilities, and ticketing. A focus on reviewing the highlights of Phish history (in terms of setlists, settings, and performances) belies and ignores the empirical variation in the quality of their shows. But I don’t mean to bring reminders of slippage down like a hammer on your warm memories and adoration for the band, much less to imply that Phish is anything less than a godsend. Rather, it is precisely because we love the band enough to have heard them enough to notice and remember these blunders. They remind us that perfection isn’t a given, that Phish are human, and that, when it all does come together flawlessly, it does so only because of a tremendous amount of work, energy, and dedication by the band members and their support staff. Thanks to them, while it isn’t all good, most of it is fantastic, and much of it is unadulterated bliss!
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I didn't know admins could time travel! Wicked awesome!
Secondly, right on, Ellis. Although my favorite flubbed Fee is 11-29-95, The Abridged or "Nice" version.
Its like a paraphrase of the old adage about pizza and sex: "Even when they're bad, they're still pretty funny."
I think the interesting thing about this little piece is how it barely mentions the actual bad moments in Phishtory--Coventry, or Vegas '04, or some of the dull fall '99 performances, etc. I know, I know, it's very SUBJECTIVE, but mentioning flukes and miscues doesn't get to the heart of the matter: Phish's best and worst moments result from the risks they take as people and musicians.
I'm not ripping on the piece; it's a fun read, but none of the minor instances mentioned here come close to the truly BAD moments in Phishtory; they're all forgivable and generally humorous side notes compared to the deterioration of the band's instrumental abilities during 2003/04, or even the objectively sour vocals they've often pushed on us ever since 1997 or so.
None of this detracts from how amazing the band has re-become in 2011, however. Here's hoping "Friday" remains a laughable memory of how bad things USED to be.
I was thinking similar to deceased lavy (I think!) as I read this piece. Flubs and miscues are not really bad moments at all, especially when put in context with an otherwise solid show. For me, "BAD" moments in Phish history stem from seeing a zonked out Trey and disinterested band plod through a droning set to just go through the motions. There are few truly bad moments like this, but the aforementioned years of 2.0 probably have most of them, along with some 99-00 stuff and surely a handful of shows in the mid-90's. This is a silly and fun read, but I think these moments of technical difficulties and flubbed lyrics are being described in the wrong context here. I would say that Coventry is as worse a moment for Phish as all the silly weather and sound problems combined. This is the point of the "jaded vet". That term is bogus. Most of the people that get accused of being that are just coming from a place where we witnessed first-hand some tough shows leading up to the real hiatus and everything is not always rosy. Generally speaking, this bunch thinks 3.0 is stellar and loves to see the band healthy and happy from the bottom of our heart. This post would have a been a light and fun read if not for the opening condescending paragraph. Not only did it miss the point entirely, but failed to dig deep into the great history of our beloved band...true warts and all.
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Anyway, I enjoyed the read, and I appreciate reading criticism of Phish in general. I don't wear the blinders, and while I don't choose to dwell on the negative, I don't hate on the people providing serious criticism.
BUT ...
The thing I dislike about the Jaded Vet crowd is that it has become this badge of honor. And to wear the badge, you must conform to all the rules of being a Jaded Vet. You can't allow yourself to enjoy a nice Prince Caspian, for that would ruin your Jaded Vet cred. You must dismiss any Tweezer less than 18 minutes, because if they don't stretch it out it's utter shit. Etc etc etc.
And that's all fine in blog posts and forum discussion ... but I went to the Gorge with someone who I'd put in this category, and I actually felt bad for him. He wouldn't allow himself to enjoy the show as a fan of Phish, or of music. He was bound by the ethos of the Jaded Vet. And he, like every reviewer I read afterward, MUCH preferred night 1 to night 2. And you know why? (We all know why) Because they went all Type-2 crazy on Rock and Roll and had a killer segue into Meatstick. Yes, that was fucking awesome, but the energy/flow/awesomeness of night 2 as a whole completely blew away night one if you ask me (or any of my other non-Jaded-Vet crew), Rock and Roll-> Meatstick notwithstanding.
Anyway, that doesn't have a ton to do with the meat of this article, but the intro referenced people's attitudes regarding the Jaded Vet segment of the fanbase. I have no beef with criticism, but I think people submarine their own enjoyment of Phish, and they do it intentionally just to sing the same chorus as the other Jaded Vets on all the blogs.
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In my opinion it is completely forgivable that Trey got over anxious with the lyrics considering the song/situation. Loved it, made us all feel like we were in this together again.
But Phish is a diverse and eclectic band, and there are lots of aspects to love: songs, jamming, stage antics, overall energy, the community, etc. In other words, there are lots of things that might make someone a fan, so there's more room for legitimate disagreement among people that like the band.
This goes both ways though; just because someone loves 3.0 doesn't necessarily mean that they are being uncritical. or that they're purposefully shutting their brains off in order to like something that they normally wouldn't.
Point is, maybe people are just pretending to like/dislike something, or liking it because they are being uncritical listeners. But that shouldn't be our first assumption when dealing with people we disagree with. Too often around here, it is.
Here're a couple of Phish stinkbombs:
--The Friday encore Nov 03 in Philly. Yuck. Never happened. What a way to ruin a fairly mediocre show.
--Kid Rock sitting in with them for so many songs, and THEN coming back out for the encore in Vegas 00. Yucky. Ruined the second half of the second set.
Glide from Coventry, now that's bad.
my two cents.
otherwise well done- great read!
Both of those sound like they're on purpose as a spacey 2001-esque jam starts, Fishman starts the 2001 drumbeat and then the band drops in over it perfectly.
As for 7/12/96.. Those always seemed more like a "creative decision" - Phish doesn't really have an obligation to finish Slave and Bowie for us. I always really dug that show because they seem comfortable & willing to defy expectation. As far as I can remember, they didn't finish a single song in that 2nd set.
If you're going to mention the 1/4/03 just for the Friday (a song that Phish didn't realize everyone was going to dislike yet) then i'm surprised you wouldn't mention the first night of Superball..what was it, Bug, Horse-> Silent, Weekapaug, Joy, Zero, Show of Life? Not one of the finest moments in set construction.
For 2011 the "bad" has generally been encores starting halfway through the 2nd set and utterly inexplicable segues where you can't even believe the same person who was just playing those incredibly fluid guitar lines actually thought that "Twist" somehow fit over that jam despite being in a different tempo & key than the jam currentl...err formerly going on. For awhile it got to a point where I was swearing it was a joke, as the band was so much tighter than they were in the late 90s/early 00s.
I also didn't mean to imply that anyone is pretending in order to fit an archetype, or that I know what anyone is thinking. I was indeed generalizing, and I don't like to do that. Of course not everyone is the same. Not everyone who would consider themselves (or who I would consider) a Jaded Vet thinks or behaves the same way. But I do think it has become a kind of mob mentality for *some*. It sorta reminds me of the people I call Hippie Snobs on the lot. If you're not Wooked-out enough, if you haven't been to X number of shows, if you weren't around in '93, you're less-than. Those people absolutely exist and they remind me of snobby high-schoolers who shun the kid with the wrong brand of jeans. I'm not saying anyone who criticizes Phish is like the Hippie Snobs on the lot. Not at all. But I do think that sort of snob mentality exists (for *some!*) with regard to the music, not just the scene -- It's not cool to like Prince Caspian. Noobs like Prince Caspian. Therefore I cannot and will not like Prince Caspian, lest I ruin my (as I said before) Jaded Vet cred.
Anyway, I don't mean to pigeonhole anyone or say anyone doesn't have the right to enjoy or hate Phish in any way they please. I just think some people seem to sabotage their own capacity for joy, and it's not wrong, just sad.
Mike once said, "I'm no longer allowed to predict the future. I'm just allowed to predict the past."
I would add this summer's Comcast Center show at Great Woods was subpar, 6/7/11. I thought the Llama was a good sign, but quickly went south. When will they blow the roof off Great Woods again?????? '09 Great Woods was the worst Phish show I have ever seen. They just have not put it on during Phish 3.0 at Great Woods.
Cumberland County Civic Center Dec 1999 was not even close to the huge expectations and super strong vibe. Great Gin, but....
I'd also point out NYE was lackluster in 2002. Terrible opener. NYE has been subpar for many years except Miami 2003, which was THE BOMB of a four show run, possibly even their BEST four show run EVER. I think they feel NYE has gone south, too, and will not do a run this year, as evidenced by the lackluster run last year at both the Centrum and MSG. They don't want to deal with NYE any more in Phish 3.0.
Gorge & Shoreline 1998 was also lackluster.
Charlotte 10/26/96 was also one of the few I saw down south that was so-so...non inspirational. Terrible arena though.
Coventry gets a pass in my books. For uniqueness, you can't say its gets any more unique than Coventry! Even if Trey couldn't play Glide....
crowd control was probably played cause of the insane police presence at mpp...
overall its a pretty standard summer 09 show. but it was enjoyable.
Guess they read the reviews with people being WAY too mad about what they opened with.
I was frankly embarrassed at how many vet fans I know who threw a FIT when they opened with it at MPP again in 2010. Exquisitely paced stunt. I thought it was funny hearing CC opener again, it was obvious they were ribbing us. Then the Saw It Again set knocked the joke out of the park.